How do catholics differ from lutheranism

Peter to be the head of the Church initially in the first century AD. So, the appointed Pope is the sole successor of St. Catholics have a very strong belief in Baptism. The belief of every human born in the world is born with sin and only baptism can remove it.

The church is the one true church for the Catholics. Bible is deeply worshipped as the inspired word of God. The Catholic Church in Rome has protected the original scriptures of Bible for so many years. Mother Mary, the mother of Jesus Christ is worshipped as the first among all the saints. Mother Mary is also considered to be the mother of Church. Catholics do not pray to any statues; they pray to God. Catholics believe in resurrection and not reincarnation.

A strong effort to reform Roman Catholic Church in the s gave raise to Protestantism. Martin Luther, who was the Professor of Bible at University of Wittenberg then, started this movement. The political and academic climate then existed in Europe, gave impetus to the reformation. In the year , there was a split in Christianity, Catholics and Lutherans. The term Lutheran was kept by a German Theologian Dr. Johann Maier von Eck. The faith of Lutherans is based out of doctrines laid out by Martin Luther.

Not usually found in throne contenders. To be sure, servants can be found anywhere and I do pray that this is the heart of every papal contender…or at least the one that gets the right smoke.

Remember also, God gave the Israelites Jeraboam, with a promise he could keep the kingdom.. What job? Are you refering to the Holy Spirits job? Did he quit? This is the New Testament example enshrined by the apostles. Actually, never did. Solomon confessed it is so. So we know you never found God then, if you stopped looking at the church with the biggerst claims on earth.. Apparently so, or he would have left us without clear and concise doctrines of how to build with bricks and purple robes.

Perhaps he just wants to see how we get along without him. Does Scott Hahn also suggest that ascension to the court should be by the laying on of hands, or birthright or??? Or does he keep that separate? Perhaps Jesus is trying to keep Peter from becoming Muslim, not putting him above other apostles… which you through your somewhat blind acceptance of Church of Rome doctrine clearly believe to be biblical.

Clearly, the only authority is God and his bi-partisan son and his Holy Spirit. Evry human endevour, whether sanctioned by God or not, needs leaders. We have other leaders now. Peter had to be corrected to accept Gentiles… by the Spirit of the Living God no less, and even then he seemed to struggle with it.

Hard to break with tradition. Um… Really? Even the Muslim heads of authority will let the Pope come and see the head of John the Baptist. If I was to set foot in a Catholic church, would I learn that there? Ok, that was a bit cheeky of me. In context, So what teaching of Jesus is this?

With that argument then every Protestant church has that same DNA. I mean they just need to grow up and claim authority. Oh wait they already do, by the Holy Spirit. Some even claim so apparently without. Another poor analogy Mark. Does that come from Church of Rome too?

A popular CD. Analogies are difficult. Even Christs fall down under one reasonable argument or another. He used many different ones to try and get across kingdom principle to earthly language.

Better to live by the Spirit of the Living God. Maybe he was ex-communicated for investing in non Church of Rome people. But I know some things. Yeah, the apostles Mark. It gives us a sense of history. Maybe it was kept secret because she was found in a compromising place.. Is there someone with that authority around? A fellow believer would suffice says James.. And yes dear readers, I did use those exact words. Was I out of order? I think not.

Will I confess to another believer… a solemn priest of the true and catholic church. So, if I get eaten by a shark and no one sees me devoured, I can leave an Assuming name for myself. That is tempting. Much better than shooting up the public, which is the MO of other sick individuals. Wait is that 42 popes or presidents? Why add confusion for the saints? What is the motive of speaking obfuscation…. Bad language assumption.

Not explicit. Not implied. Not nothing not. A triple negation resorts to the original without negation. Do the math! Humor amongst the sinful sarcasm! An evil of mixed thread comments you say, quoting Leviticus? Better than Scott Hahns mixed metaphors…or whatever that was. And I guess you base that conclusion on the fact that Jesus never tried to correct any Jewish customs??? But really?

No, if you WERE sorry, you would have deleted before publishing. May God have mercy on you. Bottom line by treading tree word NIT versions etc I cannot believe myself or any others simply headed to tyre dark side due to not excepting certain beliefs of humanistic character. The word is the word and even though different versions are totally intact, the importance of the trinity is utmost.

To believe, be saved by grace with true repent is above all that no man on earth can supply or promise. Jesus kept it simple in terms, but as the spirit grows stronger thru faith and acceptance over time to educate ones knowledge, no man even the Pope is better than I at receiving Christ.

Personally, I am Catholic. That is my choice, not just a product of my upbringing. I was raised Catholic and after trying out heavily and studying other religions, this is what I believe.

The difference between Lutheran and Catholic is minimal. Even Muslims and jews believe that the one true god is the God of Abraham. Try as you may to refute it, it is true.

The Muslim religion even celebrates a holiday on the day that God tested Abraham to sacrifice Isaac. All in all, we need to put aside our differences, come together, and worship.

I love the passion you all have. What I do not like is the anger. My suggestion is to do a little less reading and fact checking. Church fairs, interfaith services ect. Those relationships we form will be more important than any differences we have. Love to you all. As I was born into a Lutheran family, confirmed and served as alter boy, I always believed in God, so I credit my foundation of belief to this church.

As a teenager went a stray and could not have told you how a man can be saved, other then believing in God Lutherans do not make it personal, which I think this is where they need help, at lest for me. After going to hear other preachers and reading the bible for my self after years of partying thru high school. I went to the Lord of Lords in prayer and asked Him to forgive my sin. I did not go to a pastor or white collar guy.

And I read in the bible that anyone who calls upon the lord will be saved. Based on what Christ did for me on the Cross. The bible now was my authority and I put it before any man as far as authority.

The upon this rock verse Catholics use to say their the first church are wrong on that verse. That this man, Jesus is God in the flesh. Part 2. I believe their are saved people in all these denominations we are discussing. If you read Romans it explains what a Christian believes in their heart about Christ, I stand on these verses.

After they were told about the Resurection. Faith alone, Luther taught, he did not go far enough and kept a lot of Catholic stuff in there. I was baptized a second time at 19, after I prayed to receive Christ. My new life in Jesus started. Reading the bible is really important to day to day relationship with Christ, I still need to do better. Gregg, I sincerely hope you read this response which I understand may be doubtful considering the time span of this chain of comments.

I direct this response to you because, while anyone is allowed to chime in with opinions and commentary, it is your opinion I have concluded to value most of all commentators on this thread. I was born, raised, and confirmed Catholic.

Not in my faith that Jesus Christ was crucified for the forgiveness of our sins…. I have doubt in my religion. He knows, each time someone thinks his name in prayer or regret, whether their intentions and heart are true or if their regret is honest and pure.

The mere thought of lying to a Priest. Utter blasphemy. But such is the risk of human error. My point is this…i ended up on this thread strictly out of boredom and a random curiosity to fill said boredom with information about other Christian religions and how they differ from mine. But they would list how each religion believes and practices. Would that have really been so hard? And all of this bickering aside, it seems everyone, or nearly at least, forgot your main point….

I know all to well, even as a CEO Catholic how frustrating it is to know something about your religion but have it constantly misundetstood by someone of another religion. Sad thing is I catch more flack and misinformed lectures from other Christians for being Catholic than I ever have from non-Christians for being Christian. So for the sake of sanity, maturity, and Christianity….

If you guys disagree, tell me why. Intellectual conversations are my caffeine. I probably will never visit this site again tbf. I frequently worshipped at Catholic Mass , I felt completely comfortable with the liturgy whether in French or English , and felt welcome … then I was told that I was not permitted to take communion.

All I garnered is.. And I knew that. Does that mean… everything is the same except that? I will have to go to the Lutheran services myself. Thanks Anyway. People listen to yourselves arguing over who is right and who is wrong, we are no one to judge. I am a Catholic and I belive Martin Luther May have had a valid point he was upset and disgusted at the way the Catholic Church was conducting themselves with those in power. We should all follow one Person,Sportit,God. We should all love him with all our Heart Mind and Soul.

It called for members of the church to resist the allure of consumerism and dedicated the church again to work with and on behalf of the poor. Similarly, in his encyclical, On Social Concern, Pope John Paul II has spoken of "social sin" and the "structures of sin" which give rise to social conditions and institutions that are contrary to God's goodness.

The Pope added that the only antidote to such social sin is the virtue of solidarity with the poor. In , during the Cold War, the U. Catholic bishops' pastoral letter, The Challenge of Peace, described the government's action regarding the stockpiling and potential use of nuclear weapons as one of the most pressing moral questions of the age and called for accelerated work for arms control, reduction, and disarmament.

Their desire was to confront all people involved-military personnel, public officials, scientists, educators, ministers, citizens-with the moral responsibilities that their public positions demand. It calls especially for a culture of peace, reflecting the challenges of the 's: the strengthening of international cooperation, encouraging the work of non-governmental organizations, and advocating on behalf of refugees.

Both Lutheran and Roman Catholic ethics' root concern for the environment in the biblical vision of the goodness of creation.

In its statement, Caring for Creation, the ELCA draws upon this vision of creation by suggesting that human sin disrupts both creation and human relationships. The church then uses the rubric of "justice" to discuss ecology, justice understood as acting interdependently and in solidarity with creation.

Justice is achieved through participation, solidarity, sufficiency, and sustainability. Recent Catholic writings on the environment, especially those of Pope John Paul II, maintain the Catholic tradition's attention to justice and the global common good but also have added a second emphasis, that of contemplation.

The pope had developed this understanding by means of the rubric "co-creation," which the pope sees as having two axes, subduing the earth and self-mastery. On the issue of capital punishment, both communions have had to reflect upon and revise their own historical traditions that had accepted capital punishment.

In one of its earliest social statements, the ELCA went on record opposing the death penalty, suggesting that it undermines morality because of the violence inherent in this form of punishment and the questionable justice involved in its administration.

It did acknowledge, however, that its own members might differ from the church position. He expressed a deepening concern for the use of the death penalty in modern times, suggesting that the state has at its disposal other means of punishment and protection that better correspond to the common good and to the dignity of the person.

The fantastic growth of medicine and medical technology continues to challenge Roman Catholics and Lutherans with new questions and new urgency. Both churches acknowledge that patients have the right to refuse treatment when it is burdensome without being beneficial to the patient, and both churches teach that patients need to be kept as free of pain as possible and that the use of pain medication for dying patients is important, even if such therapy may indirectly shorten a person's life.

Although both churches acknowledge the option of a patient to forgo futile or burdensome medical treatment and the right to be kept as pain-free as possible, both also deny the right to assisted suicide. In its Message on End-of-Life Decisions, however, the ELCA does recognize that there might be ambiguous borderline situations, such as extreme unmanageable pain, that may call this affirmation into question.

The ELCA acknowledges that it is God who is the creator of life and that there is a strong Christian presumption to preserve and protect life. It understands abortion as a source for deep concern within the church and therefore in most circumstances it discourages abortion. However, exceptional circumstances are delineated when the choice to abort can be made responsibly.

These would include cases of rape, incest, extreme fetal abnormality, and when the physical life of the mother is threatened. Since the Catholic church believes that fetal life is indeed vulnerable human life that demands protection, it considers all direct abortion to be the taking of innocent human life and therefore seriously morally wrong.

The Catholic church acknowledges that "in certain cases, perhaps in quite a considerable number of cases, by denying abortion one endangers important values. Both Lutheran and Catholic ethics acknowledge that human sexuality was created good for the purpose of expressing love and generating life. Both acknowledge that in the area of sexuality God's law serves the person by providing guidance and exposing sinfulness. Both acknowledge that marriage appropriately provides a structure of security and stability within which persons may enjoy full sexual expression.

The difference between the two communions revolves around the evaluation of the moral significance of the act of intercourse itself. Pope Paul VI's encyclical, On Human Life, explains that both the love-expressing and life-giving purposes of sexuality always be harmonized in each act of intercourse. This understanding of the inseparability of the two aspects of intercourse leads on the one hand to the Roman Catholic church's opposition to artificial contraception, seeing the love-expressing aspect of intercourse emphasized to the detriment of its life-giving aspect, and on the other hand to its condemnation of most forms of technologically assisted reproduction, especially in-vitro fertilization, seeing in such technologies the emphasis of the life-giving aspect to the detriment of the love-expressing.

On the other hand, the ELCA states that respect and sensitivity for one's partner may necessitate the use of contraceptives. Furthermore, while respecting the procreative capability of sexual intercourse, it also appreciates the potential benefit of new reproductive technologies, while acknowledging that such technologies bring with them "complex ethical questions.

The ELCA acknowledges that a great deal of disagreement exists within its own church body regarding homosexuality. Some theologians and pastors see homosexual activity as contradictory to the meaning that God has placed in sexuality in creating persons male and female. Others believe that homosexual actions need to be evaluated within the context of a loving and committed relationship.

Nevertheless, the ELCA has stated that it values the gifts and commitments of gays and lesbians to the church. The Catholic teaching is clear in its position: Although the Catholic church maintains that homosexual orientation in itself is not sinful, it also teaches that homosexual acts are gravely immoral.

Both churches, however, do condemn acts of violence and prejudice directed against homosexual persons. The Roman Catholic church approves genetic testing and forms of genetic therapy, provided they safeguard the life and integrity of mother and embryo. The Catholic church, however, prohibits so-called germ line genetic therapies, that alter the genetic makeup of the zygote as well as any procedures which destroy the embryo, such as research or therapies using embryonic stem cells.

The ELCA is currently developing a social statement on health care and genetics, but it has already spoken out on a variety of areas in genetics, offering support to its members contemplating genetic screening and therapy as long as such interventions preserve personal integrity and social dignity. Conclusion [26] Since Christian ethics is the concrete living out of our faith convictions, it is not surprising that the different emphases in Lutheranism and Roman Catholicism lead to different articulations of the moral life.

What might be more surprising for both Lutherans and Catholics is how similar the churches' concrete positions are on many moral issues.

It is in the area of abortion and certain teachings on sexual ethics that the greatest divergence between the official church statements occurs.